{"id":25,"date":"2005-02-25T18:56:31","date_gmt":"2005-02-25T18:56:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/andresb.net\/?p=25"},"modified":"2008-06-04T12:15:37","modified_gmt":"2008-06-04T18:15:37","slug":"mas-de-lo-mismo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/post\/2005\/02\/mas-de-lo-mismo\/","title":{"rendered":"M\u00e1s de lo mismo"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In their fascinating and eloquent valetudinarian correspondence, Adams and Jefferson had a great deal to say about religion. Pressed by Jefferson to define his personal creed, Adams replied that it was \u00abcontained in four short words, &#8216;Be just and good.'\u00bb Jefferson replied, \u00abThe result of our fifty or sixty years of religious reading, in the four words, &#8216;Be just and good,&#8217; is that in which all our inquiries must end; as the riddles of all priesthoods end in four more, &#8216;ubi panis, ibi deus.&#8217; What all agree in, is probably right. What no two agree in, most probably wrong.\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>This was a clear reference to Voltaire&#8217;s Reflections on Religion. As Voltaire put it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There are no sects in geometry. One does not speak of a Euclidean, an Archimedean. When the truth is evident, it is impossible for parties and factions to arise. Well, to what dogma do all minds agree? To the worship of a God, and to honesty. All the philosophers of the world who have had a religion have said in all ages: \u00abThere is a God, and one must be just.\u00bb There, then, is the universal religion established in all ages and throughout mankind. The point in which they all agree is therefore true, and the systems through which they differ are therefore false.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ahora viene la traducci\u00f3n.<\/p>\n<p>En su fascinante y elocuente -y habitualmente enfermiza- correspondencia, John Quincy Adams y Thomas Jefferson se explayaban bastante sobre la religi\u00f3n. Jefferson presiona a Adams para que defina su credo personal, y \u00e9ste replica: \u00aben cuatro cortas palabras, &#8216;S\u00e9 justo y bueno.'\u00bb Jefferson responde, \u00abEl resultado de nuestros cincuenta o sesenta a\u00f1os de lecturas religiosas, en las cuatro palabras &#8216;S\u00e9 justo y bueno,&#8217; es donde todos nuestros cuestionamientos deben terminar; as\u00ed como los enigmas de todos los sacerdocios terminan en otras cuatro, &#8216;ubi panis,ibi deus&#8217; (donde hay pan, est\u00e1 dios). Todo en lo que estamos de acuerdo, es probablemente lo correcto. En lo que dos personas no pueden coincidir, es muy probable que no lo sea.\u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Esta fue una clara referencia a \u00abReflexiones sobre Religi\u00f3n\u00bb (Reflections on Religion) de Voltaire. \u00c9l lo expresa de esta manera:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>No hay sectas en geometr\u00eda. Uno no habla de un Euclidiano, o un Arquimedeano. Cuando la verdad es evidente, es imposible que surjan partidos y facciones. Entonces, en qu\u00e9 dogma coinciden todas las mentes? En la adoraci\u00f3n de un Dios y en la honestidad. Todos los fil\u00f3sofos del mundo que profesaron una religi\u00f3n dijeron a lo largo de la historia: \u00abExiste un Dios y uno debe ser justo.\u00bb All\u00ed est\u00e1, entonces, la religi\u00f3n establecida por la humanidad a trav\u00e9s del tiempo. El punto en el que todas concuerdan es por lo tanto verdadero, y los sistemas en los que difieren son por lo tanto falsos.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Robado de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thenation.com\/doc.mhtml?i=20050221&amp;c=1&amp;s=allen\">\u00abOur Godless Constitution\u00bb<\/a>. Las atrocidades en la traducci\u00f3n son m\u00edas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In their fascinating and eloquent valetudinarian correspondence, Adams and Jefferson had a great deal to say about religion. Pressed by Jefferson to define his personal creed, Adams replied that it was \u00abcontained in four short words, &#8216;Be just and good.&#8217;\u00bb Jefferson replied, \u00abThe result of our fifty or sixty years of religious reading, in the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"twitterCardType":"","cardImageID":0,"cardImage":"","cardTitle":"","cardDesc":"","cardImageAlt":"","cardPlayer":"","cardPlayerWidth":0,"cardPlayerHeight":0,"cardPlayerStream":"","cardPlayerCodec":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[234,12,24],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/andresb.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}